This week on The Drive-Home, Kara and I have shared several clips from a conversation we had several months ago with Isaac from Middays on KLRC and Dr. James Hawkins, host of the KLRC podcast, "A More Excellent Way." This conversation was originally recorded for an episode of The Real Talk Podcast for KLRC's sister station, Real FM

James is a counselor and pastor, and helped us walk through a candid conversation on racism and racial reconciliation from a Christian worldview. This was a profoundly helpful conversation for us, and we hope it will be for you as well. You can listen to the conversation in its entirety below. 

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