Suzie Eller, Holley Gerth, and Jennifer Watson, writers and real-life friends, are inviting you to go deeper, become freer, and feel more connected with the More Than Small Talk Podcast.

Every episode includes a confession question as well as helpful truths, tips and resources. If you want more peace and less stress, more vulnerability and less trying to be perfect, more hope and less hustle this is the podcast for you.

May
9

A Little More: Healing is Brave Work

More Than Small Talk

Whether it’s the end of a relationship, the death of someone we love, betrayal, or a painful disappointment, heartache doesn’t just hurt—it drains. Trusting again seems impossible. Getting out of bed is a win. Jennifer shares one truth we can cling to: healing from heartache is one of the bravest things you can do.

May
8

Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts (Episode 333)

More Than Small Talk

How can you reclaim your life after grief, loss, or trauma? Author, counselor, and domestic abuse survivor Kimberly Haar shares her story. Her new book, Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts, is part powerful testimony and part hope-giving therapy. 

May
2

A Little More: Knees Knocking, Heart Hammering, Trusting God

More Than Small Talk

The beauty of growth is not perfection, but partnering with God. 

May
1

Underestimated (Episode 332)

More Than Small Talk

What’s the surprisingly simple shift that will empower you to quit playing small, name the fear, and move forward anyway? Mary Marantz shares hard-won wisdom from her new book, Underestimated, that will give you new courage. 

Apr
25

A Little More: Help When Social Media Makes You Compare

More Than Small Talk

If scrolling on social media leads to feeling like you’re not doing enough, join Holley for an aha moment that will shift your perspective from comparing to taking a deep breath of grace. 

Apr
24

Social Media Reset (Episode 331)

More Than Small Talk

What does social media do to our souls? That’s the question Allie Marie Smith is passionate about answering in a conversation inspired by her new book, Social Media Reset. 

Apr
18

A Little More: Letting Go of Expectations

More Than Small Talk

We often live under the weight of expectations—our own, others’, or what we assume God requires. These expectations can quietly steal our joy, bind us in fear of failure, and leave us feeling like we’re never enough. But what if we were never meant to carry them? Jennifer shares some encouragement when we find it hard to let go.

Apr
17

Let Them/Me/Him (Episode 330)

More Than Small Talk

How do we let others have free will, let ourselves focus on what’s really ours to do, and let God be in control of it all? We talk through this tricky topic so that we can free up more of our energy and emotion for what matters most.

Apr
11

A Little More: That Miracle In Front Of You

More Than Small Talk

There are miracles right in front of us. Will we see them? 

Apr
10

Found (Episode 329)

More Than Small Talk

Author, speaker, and podcaster Lorie Hartshorn joins us for a conversation about her book, Found, and how knowing who we truly are in Christ can transform our stories.

Apr
4

A Little More: We Need You

More Than Small Talk

Holley shares how the bravest thing you can do, is to be who you already are. Because we need you. 

Apr
3

Becoming (Episode 328)

More Than Small Talk

What’s one difference between you and your 21-year-old self? We answer this question and talk about what it means to become more of who we are for a lifetime (and, surprisingly, even an eternity). 

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