Suzie Eller, Holley Gerth, and Jennifer Watson, writers and real-life friends, are inviting you to go deeper, become freer, and feel more connected with the More Than Small Talk Podcast.

Every episode includes a confession question as well as helpful truths, tips and resources. If you want more peace and less stress, more vulnerability and less trying to be perfect, more hope and less hustle this is the podcast for you.

Jun
12

Best of ALM: Knees Knocking, Heart Hammering, Trusting God

More Than Small Talk

The beauty of growth is not perfection, but partnering with God. 

Jun
11

Brave Woman, Mighty God (Episode 387)

More Than Small Talk

In this episode, Laura L. Smith joins us to share how God transforms our "ordinary" lives into masterpieces of His grace. Through the stories of brave women in the Bible, we’re reminded that God sees us, equips us, and invites us to be the unique "God colors" the world needs right now.

Jun
5

Best Of ALM: Letting Go of Expectations

More Than Small Talk

Do you ever feel like you’re carrying an invisible checklist of everything you should be doing, who you must become, and how you have to measure up? Holley shares encouragement for every woman who feels worn out by expectations.

Jun
4

What We’re Okay with Never Figuring Out (Episode 386)

More Than Small Talk

What are you okay with never figuring out? (Besides math–ha!) We talk about the things in life that are still a bit of a mystery, including God, the people we love, and situations that will never quite make sense to us. 

May
29

A Little More: Grownups and Grace

More Than Small Talk

Jennifer shares about how being a grownup is a lot less about having all the right answers, and a lot more about learning how to keep going with grace.

May
28

What We Thought Being a Grown-Up Would Be Like (Episode 385)

More Than Small Talk

What did you think being a grown-up would be like? We share our answers. Spoiler alert: Some made us laugh out loud. Others helped us reflect. And a few inspired us to think about the years still ahead of us too. 

May
22

A Little More: Right or Wrong? I’ve Changed My Mind About That.

More Than Small Talk

Jesus showed us how to see people wholly. We are invited to do the same.

May
21

Things We’ve Changed Our Minds About (Episode 384)

More Than Small Talk

What do you think differently now? After seven years of the podcast, we look back on what we’ve learned and how we’ve changed–and why the ability to adapt and grow matters for all of us. 

May
15

A Little More: You Are Beautiful

More Than Small Talk

Beauty isn’t in the eye of the beholder; it’s in the eyes of the Creator. Holley helps us reframe how we see ourselves and reminds us that all of who we are, even the way we look, can have a purpose. 

May
14

The Other Side of Summer (Episode 383)

More Than Small Talk

Summer often comes with expectations to look a certain way, especially for women. We talk about how to love our bodies as they are and see all of who we are as beautiful, especially our scars. 

May
8

A Little More: Learning To Play Again Is Holy Work

More Than Small Talk

Somewhere along the way, many of us traded wonder for responsibility, laughter for productivity, and joy for survival mode. Jennifer encourages us that our soul was never designed to live in constant striving. 

May
7

Best Of MTST: Permission to Play

More Than Small Talk

Today we're revising a lighthearted summer episode about how we can play more and stress less. We talk about what play looks like for us, how it helps us as humans, and how it might even be a spiritual discipline.

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